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		<title>By: Priority One: Education : Nathan Ballentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priority One: Education : Nathan Ballentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] again this year, I&#8217;m sure legislation on  &#8220;choice&#8221; (private and/or public)  will come to the House floor for debate. I&#8217;d love to  hear your thoughts as I plan to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] again this year, I&#8217;m sure legislation on  &#8220;choice&#8221; (private and/or public)  will come to the House floor for debate. I&#8217;d love to  hear your thoughts as I plan to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Heartbeat Away in SC : Nathan Ballentine</title>
		<link>http://nathansnews.com/school-choice-killed-with-only-5-total-votes.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8148</link>
		<dc:creator>A Heartbeat Away in SC : Nathan Ballentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] choice&#8221; card against him. If Ted loses that chairman&#8217;s race, it&#8217;ll be because of  &#8220;school choice&#8221; - and that&#8217;s a shame. Surely the Democrats and the &#8220;anti-voucher&#8221; Republicans [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] choice&#8221; card against him. If Ted loses that chairman&#8217;s race, it&#8217;ll be because of  &#8220;school choice&#8221; &#8211; and that&#8217;s a shame. Surely the Democrats and the &#8220;anti-voucher&#8221; Republicans [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Song Remains the Same : Nathan Ballentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Song Remains the Same : Nathan Ballentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Then the following morning the House Republicans met in Charleston to discuss the upcoming agenda for next session. I was very pleased the Speaker asked to be on my proposal for campaign disclosure reforms (all but assures passage due to his political presence) but I was equally shocked when another common-sense idea (roll-call voting) appeared to blow up like it was some school-choice proposal. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Then the following morning the House Republicans met in Charleston to discuss the upcoming agenda for next session. I was very pleased the Speaker asked to be on my proposal for campaign disclosure reforms (all but assures passage due to his political presence) but I was equally shocked when another common-sense idea (roll-call voting) appeared to blow up like it was some school-choice proposal. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How much for your child? : Nathan Ballentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>How much for your child? : Nathan Ballentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more than just the FUNDING side of things. And if we&#8217;re going to go there, do we address the &#8220;third rail of SC politics&#8221; - school choice? And by &#8220;school choice&#8221; I mean public AND [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more than just the FUNDING side of things. And if we&#8217;re going to go there, do we address the &#8220;third rail of SC politics&#8221; &#8211; school choice? And by &#8220;school choice&#8221; I mean public AND [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Diana M. Brazell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana M. Brazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on them..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on them&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Ewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Ewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan, I am a high school teacher in the Midlands and saw your blurb on The State Op-ed page. I agree with offering more options. The problem is the lens through which the legislators, especially those who favor vouchers, view education as you have.

SAT is a narrow measure of achievement. There are 9th graders who score above 1000. Does this mean they should exempt high school? Regarding vouchers for the poor students, high school tuition ranges from 6 to 12 thousand. How is a tax credit or a 3,000 voucher going to help a kid in Gonzales Gardens? Private school students took over 2000 AP exams last year.  less than 40 were taken by black students. How will these same private schools accommodate the diversity which is so foreign to them?

The problem is the legislature and the community spends energy and time on vouchers and very little on actual reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, I am a high school teacher in the Midlands and saw your blurb on The State Op-ed page. I agree with offering more options. The problem is the lens through which the legislators, especially those who favor vouchers, view education as you have.</p>
<p>SAT is a narrow measure of achievement. There are 9th graders who score above 1000. Does this mean they should exempt high school? Regarding vouchers for the poor students, high school tuition ranges from 6 to 12 thousand. How is a tax credit or a 3,000 voucher going to help a kid in Gonzales Gardens? Private school students took over 2000 AP exams last year.  less than 40 were taken by black students. How will these same private schools accommodate the diversity which is so foreign to them?</p>
<p>The problem is the legislature and the community spends energy and time on vouchers and very little on actual reform.</p>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rep. Ballentine talks in his blog about helping kids avoid dropping out of school. So, I would guess that his private school choice plan would focus on students who are struggling most in public schools. I would also figure that he&#039;d focus on the poorest students in the state, since poverty generally correlates to failure in school. 

Mark Sanford&#039;s PPIC plan focused on tax breaks for middle-class families, guaranteeing nothing to the poor. It seems to me that ever since that ridiculous plan was pitched by our governor and groups like SCRG formed to shill for the plan, opponents of vouchers and tax credits for private schooling have become extremely vigilant. Maybe too much so, in my opinion. But I do think it&#039;s understandable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rep. Ballentine talks in his blog about helping kids avoid dropping out of school. So, I would guess that his private school choice plan would focus on students who are struggling most in public schools. I would also figure that he&#8217;d focus on the poorest students in the state, since poverty generally correlates to failure in school. </p>
<p>Mark Sanford&#8217;s PPIC plan focused on tax breaks for middle-class families, guaranteeing nothing to the poor. It seems to me that ever since that ridiculous plan was pitched by our governor and groups like SCRG formed to shill for the plan, opponents of vouchers and tax credits for private schooling have become extremely vigilant. Maybe too much so, in my opinion. But I do think it&#8217;s understandable.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So long as Strom Thurmond&#039;s &quot;Freedom of Choice&quot; school proposal is laid to rest, I applaud the efforts of any and every legislator anywhere who is willing to take up the mantle of bettering the school situation.

I, for one, do not believe we need any new plans; we need new students, new parents, new teachers, new administrators and new politicians. With all five guns firing at the same time, the state of South Carolina and the United States as a whole can have school systems unrivaled in the world.

 I am not speaking of mass transportation of any of the above. I am asking that everyone recognize what they are there for, and asking that they do whatever that is.

It&#039;s really very simple. Cut the bull, EVERYONE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So long as Strom Thurmond&#8217;s &#8220;Freedom of Choice&#8221; school proposal is laid to rest, I applaud the efforts of any and every legislator anywhere who is willing to take up the mantle of bettering the school situation.</p>
<p>I, for one, do not believe we need any new plans; we need new students, new parents, new teachers, new administrators and new politicians. With all five guns firing at the same time, the state of South Carolina and the United States as a whole can have school systems unrivaled in the world.</p>
<p> I am not speaking of mass transportation of any of the above. I am asking that everyone recognize what they are there for, and asking that they do whatever that is.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really very simple. Cut the bull, EVERYONE!</p>
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		<title>By: David O</title>
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		<dc:creator>David O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>School choice will never pass because too many politicians are either married  or closely related to  a government school employee. It is all about money and power. Remember, these are the same guys that just voted an automatic 2% yearly pay increase for the retired state employees.  

The writer and others making comments clearly do not understand the thought process of those who advocate true school choice.  Our basic belief is that parents, not government, are the authority over the training of our children.  Not that we hate the government, we just think children are best raised by mom and dad, not by Uncle Samantha and Uncle Sam.  
Maybe the government knows what is best for your child, but I think that mothers and fathers usually care more about their children than bureaucrats do.  

Tax credits are the only choice that a sane politician could support. You folks that say that private schools should be regulated by the &quot;state&quot; in order to receive state money make it clear why so many school choice advocates vote &quot;NO&quot; on any plan that includes &quot;vouchers.”   Vouchers with strings would continue the idea that children are wards of the state, and the state should have control over their training.  Private schools succeed because the schools are directly accountable to the parents.  Unlike government schools, bad private schools go out of business.  That is the ultimate accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>School choice will never pass because too many politicians are either married  or closely related to  a government school employee. It is all about money and power. Remember, these are the same guys that just voted an automatic 2% yearly pay increase for the retired state employees.  </p>
<p>The writer and others making comments clearly do not understand the thought process of those who advocate true school choice.  Our basic belief is that parents, not government, are the authority over the training of our children.  Not that we hate the government, we just think children are best raised by mom and dad, not by Uncle Samantha and Uncle Sam.<br />
Maybe the government knows what is best for your child, but I think that mothers and fathers usually care more about their children than bureaucrats do.  </p>
<p>Tax credits are the only choice that a sane politician could support. You folks that say that private schools should be regulated by the &#8220;state&#8221; in order to receive state money make it clear why so many school choice advocates vote &#8220;NO&#8221; on any plan that includes &#8220;vouchers.”   Vouchers with strings would continue the idea that children are wards of the state, and the state should have control over their training.  Private schools succeed because the schools are directly accountable to the parents.  Unlike government schools, bad private schools go out of business.  That is the ultimate accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good post NB, good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good post NB, good post.</p>
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